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                   Three white supremacists indicted in Utah assaults

The national leader of a white supremacist group and two of its members have been charged with committing hate crimes by assaulting two minority men in Utah.
    An indictment issued by a federal grand jury Wednesday in Salt Lake City alleges the three National Alliance members conspired to provoke fights with persons perceived to be "non-white" to make them afraid to work, live or appear in public in the Salt Lake City area.
    "This, of course, is conduct we will not tolerate in our community," Stephen Sorenson, acting U.S. Attorney for Utah, said at a Friday morning news conference announcing the indictments, unsealed Thursday.
    He added that people are allowed to harbor "foolish beliefs," but are not free to assault others.
    Timothy Fuhrman, special FBI agent in charge in Salt Lake City, said the indictment sends a loud message that hate crimes will be vigorously investigated and prosecuted. The case was investigated by the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force and the Salt Lake City Police Department.

A common cliche these days is 'speaking truth to power'. It has been grossly misused by the Left to try and lend credence to their pitiful efforts at emasculating the administrative branch of its constitutional mandate to protect us - the citizens. But this story is a true example of 'truth to power.' The truth is, America has no room for white power or its fascist adherents.

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        Three white supremacists indicted in Utah assaults

by Pamela Manson

The national leader of a white supremacist group and two of its members have been charged with committing hate crimes by assaulting two minority men in Utah.
    An indictment issued by a federal grand jury Wednesday in Salt Lake City alleges the three National Alliance members conspired to provoke fights with persons perceived to be "non-white" to make them afraid to work, live or appear in public in the Salt Lake City area.
    "This, of course, is conduct we will not tolerate in our community," Stephen Sorenson, acting U.S. Attorney for Utah, said at a Friday morning news conference announcing the indictments, unsealed Thursday.
    He added that people are allowed to harbor "foolish beliefs," but are not free to assault others.
    Timothy Fuhrman, special FBI agent in charge in Salt Lake City, said the indictment sends a loud message that hate crimes will be vigorously investigated and prosecuted. The case was investigated by the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force and the Salt Lake City Police Department.
    "The acts alleged in this indictment are senseless," Fuhrman said.
    Named as defendants are Shaun A. Walker, 38, of Hillsboro, W.Va., identified as the national chairman of the National Alliance; Travis D.
    Massey, 29, of Salt Lake City, who has served as a spokesman in Utah for the group; and Eric G. Egbert, 21, also of Salt Lake City.
    All are charged with one count each of conspiracy to interfere with civil rights and interference with a federally protected activity. Each charge carries a maximum punishment of 10 years in prison.
    Massey and Egbert, who were arrested Thursday in Utah, pleaded not guilty during brief court appearances Friday before U.S. Magistrate David Nuffer. They are ordered detained until another hearing on Tuesday, where prosecutors will argue to leave them in jail while the case moves through the justice system.

Walker, who lived in Utah at one time, was arrested Thursday in West Virginia and will be arraigned after federal marshals transport him to Salt Lake City.
    The grand jury indictment alleges that the conspiracy by the defendants, along with others, took place from December 2002 to March 2003.
    The indictment says that Walker, Massey and Egbert intimidated and threatened individuals of minority background on Dec. 31, 2002, at O'Shucks, a Salt Lake City bar. The three then assaulted a Mexican-American male, according to the indictment, "because he was and had been enjoying employment" - a federally protected activity.
    And on March 15, 2003, Massey and an unnamed individual threatened and assaulted a Native American man at the Port of Call bar in Salt Lake City, the indictment alleges.
    Sorenson said hate crimes affect the entire community because they are "not just aimed at the individuals attacked but at all people of color."
    The National Alliance sparked controversy when it bought space on a billboard in 2004 on State Stree near downtown Salt Lake City and posted the message "Securing the Future for European Americans." The organization complains of "out-of-control" immigration by non-whites, an alleged Jewish monopoly of the mass media and political correctness in education. Links

                                                        And then there's this ...

                                             

                       THIS is what America must fight - FASCISM worldwide.

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[Phoenix]

SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER

A Quaker Search for an Alternative to Violence

A STUDY OF INTERNATIONAL CONFLICTPREPARED FOR THEAMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICE COMMITTEE
A NOTE TO THE READER

For more than thirty-five years the American Friends Service Committee has worked among those who suffer, recognizing no enemies, and seeking only to give expression to the love of God in service. Out of this experience, gained under all kinds of governments and amidst all kinds of people, has come some appreciation of the problems of peacemaking in the modern world. This has led the Committee to issue over the past five years a series of studies on possible ways to ease tension and move toward international peace. The series began in 1949 with the publication of The United States and the Soviet Union. It was continued in 1951 with Steps to Peace and in 1952 with Toward Security through Disarmament. This is the fourth of the series, while a fifth, dealing with the future of the United Nations, is now in preparation.

All of these reports have been prepared for the American Friends Service Committee by study groups convened especially for the purpose. They have been approved for publication by the Committee's Executive Board-not as official pronouncements, but in the interest of stimulating public discussion of the issues raised, and in the hope that such discussion will contribute to the formation of policies that will bring peace.

The other studies have been developed on the assumption that reliance on military power is so integral in the policy of every major nation, that the most practical approach to peacemaking is to suggest specific next steps to reduce tension and thereby move gradually away from the reliance on force. Many other individuals and organizations have made similar suggestions, so that discussion of such alternatives to present policy has been fairly widespread. A large area of agreement has indeed been reached, and many Americans both in and out of government concur on the kind of constructive measures needed.

Yet American policy has continued to develop in the opposite direction. This study attempts to discover why this should be so. It finds its answer not in the inadequacy of statesmanship or in the machinations of evil men, but in what seem to the drafters of this report to be the unsound premises upon which policy is based. Most Americans accept without question the assumption that winning the peace depends upon a simultaneous reliance upon military strength and long-range programs of a positive and constructive character. They accept also the assumption that totalitarian communism is the greatest evil that now threatens men and that this evil can be met only by violence, or at least by the threat of violence. We believe these assumptions cannot be sustained, and therefore that the policies based on them are built upon sand. We have here attempted to analyze our reasons, and without denying the value of proposals that might ease present tensions, to suggest another and less widely considered alternative built on a different assumption, namely, that military power in today's world is incompatible with freedom, incapable of providing security, and ineffective in dealing with evil.

Our title, Speak Truth to Power, taken from a charge given to Eighteenth Century Friends, suggests the effort that is made to speak from the deepest insight of the Quaker faith, as this faith is understood by those who prepared this study. We speak to power in three senses:

To those who hold high places in our national life and bear the terrible responsibility of making decisions for war or peace.
To the American people who are the final reservoir of power in this country and whose values and expectations set the limits for those who exercise authority.
To the idea of Power itself, and its impact on Twentieth Century life.
Our truth is an ancient one: that love endures and overcomes; that hatred destroys; that what is obtained by love is retained, but what is obtained by hatred proves a burden. This truth, fundamental to the position which rejects reliance on the method of war, is ultimately a religious perception, a belief that stands outside of history. Because of this we could not end this study without discussing the relationship between the politics of time with which men are daily concerned and the politics of eternity which they too easily ignore.

But our main purpose is not to restate the many prophetic expositions of the pacifist position. Beginning with The Sermon on the Mount, the Christian tradition alone has produced a library of enduring religious statements, and the same can be said for the literature of other great faiths. The urgent need is not to preach religious truth, but to show how it is possible and why it is reasonable to give practical expression to it in the great conflict that now divides the world.

In recent years, outside of theological circles, and infrequently there, there has been little able discussion of the pacifist point of view. Pacifism has been cataloged as the private witness of a small but useful minority, or as the irresponsible action of men who are so overwhelmed with the horror of war that they fail to see that greater evil sometimes exists and that the sacrifices of war may be necessary to turn it back. Whether condemned or in a sense valued, pacifism has been considered irrelevant to the concrete problems of international relations.

This study attempts to show its relevance. It is focused on the current international crisis. It begins with a survey of the same concrete problems with which any discussion of world affairs must deal. It is concerned with problems of security, the growth of Russian and American power, the challenge to American interests presented by Soviet Communism. It recognizes the existence of evil and the need to resist it actively. It does not see peacemaking as the attempt to reconcile evil with good. It speaks to the problem of inevitable conflict.

We believe it is time for thoughtful men to look behind the label "pacifist," to deal fairly with the ideas and beliefs which sustain those whose approach to foreign policy begins with the rejection of reliance upon military power. We speak to the great majority of Americans who still stand opposed to war, who expect no good of armies and H-bombs. Their reluctant acceptance of a dominantly military policy has been based on the belief that military power provides the necessary security without which the constructive work that builds peace cannot be undertaken. They are for a military program because they feel they must be. "There is no alternative."

We have tried to present an alternative and to set forth our reasons for believing that it offers far greater hope and involves no greater risk than our present military policy. Our effort is incomplete, but we believe it is a step toward the serious examination of a nonviolent approach to world problems. Is there a method for dealing with conflict which does not involve us in the betrayal of our own beliefs, either through acquiescence to our opponent's will or through resorting to evil means to resist him? Is there a way to meet that which threatens us, without relying on our ability to cause pain to the human being who embodies the threat?

We believe there is a way, and that it lies in the attempt to give practical demonstration to the effectiveness of love in human relations. We believe able men, pacifist and non-pacifist alike, have taken this initial insight, developed it, demonstrated it, and built understanding and support for it in field after field of human relations. In view of this, it is strange that almost no one has made a serious attempt to explore its implications in international affairs. There is now almost no place in our great universities, few lines in the budgets of our great foundations, and little space in scholarly journals, for thought and experimentation that begin with the unconditional rejection of organized mass violence and seek to think through the concrete problems of present international relations in new terms. It is time there was.

New conditions demand new responses. We have tried here to suggest a new response. We hope the reader will bring to it an open mind, and if in any way challenged, will join in a serious effort to explore farther the lines of thought we have suggested.

[Phoenix]

Speaking truth to power such as this article describes will never work. No one will ever agree to what peace means. Each culture will want peace on their terms. It may well be that mankind yearns for peace, - but whose peace?... The Muslim peace? The Christian peace? The Liberal peace? Which political system will oversee that peace? Which economic system will hold up that peace?

[Moze]

I've studied Quakerism, and I'll tell you why. To ensure their children would never be drafted by the U.S. Military, my in-laws made my wife and her siblings Quakers.

It just gets weirder from there...

Cheers,

[Phoenix]

That is revolting.

There are many Quakers in the military now. The military gives them non-combat positions. I read a terrific story about a medic who is a Quaker. I was almost weeping at the end and wasn't sure why. Then it came to me that this young man has what epitomizes deep faith: He did not sacrifice his duty to his religion or to his country. And he carried that duty, faith, allegiance a step further by becoming a medic so he could help those who fought for him. I bow to that grace.

[OINK]

Try traveling to Saudi Arabia and speaking Truth to them.

In my church you have a DUTY to physically defend those you are responsible for.

It's true, many Pacificists have done highly praiseworthy duty as Medics & Corpsmen. Navy Corpsmen who served in the FMF * are welcome to join the Marine Corps League.

* Fleet Marine Force, also Fightin' MotherF***ers. The combat arm of the Corps.

[OINK]

Anyone who is proud of being white must not have much to be proud of. I don't even give racists courtesy.

(2 of my kids are married, & the third hooked-up with, non-white mates -- I consider it to be a beneficial diversification of our gene pool)

[Phoenix]

"Anyone who is proud of being white must not have much to be proud of." Good line. Can you imagine a mind so small?

After 20 years of teaching in public schools and teaching approximately 30 foreign exchange students, I have horse-blinders on. All I see is 'person'. Racist stuff just makes me sigh.

It is a horrible irony that a racist incident made me walk away from my job long before my time to leave. *I* was not the racist. It took me four years to see the light of day, too. I plunged into a special abyss where the good flounder for a reality that will bring some sense of sanity back. It was dark down there.

[Joshua Holzer]

I believe that everyone has a right to their own opinion. It is a right given to you at birth. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Opinion... I'm not saying I'm racist. I have family members that are African-American. I just believe that every man/woman has a right to voice their own opinion.

[JUNIOR]

I think someone needs to get there facts stright nordic runes have nothing to do with any white power organization. please in the future get your facts stright
besides theres nothing wrong with being proud of who you
are.
Junior SWP