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04/14/2006

ASBO

                   Super-Asbos plan for top criminals

Asbo High-level criminals could be hit with "super-Asbos" under plans being considered by the Government.

The measures would see suspected drug barons and people smugglers banned from meeting other underworld figures, or visiting known haunts.

They could also be confined to the immediate area around their homes, even if police do not yet have enough evidence to bring criminal charges.

    Blinker_68

  ASBOs have become very controversial since their enactment back in the late 90s. Here is an overview of what they address:

Anti-social behaviour has a wide legal definition – to paraphrase the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, it is behaviour which causes or is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress to one or more people who are not in the same household as the perpetrator. Among the forms it can take are:

  • graffiti – which can on its own make even the tidiest urban spaces look squalid

  • abusive and intimidating language, too often directed at minorities

  • excessive noise, particularly late at night

  • fouling the street with litter

  • drunken behaviour in the streets, and the mess it creates

  • dealing drugs, with all the problems to which it gives rise.

   Now, many say that ASBOs deny a person their civil rights and due process. To an extent they do. But in that, ASBOs act as a pre-adjudicative, keeping small time anti-social behavior from going to court and resulting in a permanent criminal record. I find that a fair trade off, especially as regards kids and teenagers. It is like saying 'this is your last chance'.

   Society benefits because court cost are reduced, dockets are reduced and criminal prosecutions are hastened. Property crime is reduced. And maybe, just maybe, a kid who might go on to become a real criminal, is saved.

   Others argue that ASBOs are just the State taking the easy way out and acting with cowardice. The State should crush all unlawful behavior. Regardless of long term costs.

   ASBOs remain a hot topic in Britain. And the success or failure of the concept is being watched very closely in other countries,  even the United States. Here are some statistics.

   Personally, I think ASBOs are an idea whose time is long overdue. The concept of the 'super-asbo'? Well, then it gets a bit dicey, but I would support it, as long as there was proper oversight by law enforcement.

                                      What do YOU think?

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          Super-Asbos plan for top criminals

High-level criminals could be hit with "super-Asbos" under plans being considered by the Government.

The measures would see suspected drug barons and people smugglers banned from meeting other underworld figures, or visiting known haunts.

They could also be confined to the immediate area around their homes, even if police do not yet have enough evidence to bring criminal charges.

The "super-Asbos" are expected to be enforced by the newly-launched Serious and Organised Crime Agency (Soca), which would have to apply for orders from a High Court judge.

Currently Asbos are used to tackle low-level crime and anti-social behaviour such as vandalism, petty theft, or using abusive language in the street.

Local councils and police apply to magistrates for Asbos, and a lower standard of proof is required than in criminal cases. Receiving an Asbo does not result in a criminal record, but breaching one is an imprisonable offence.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We're always looking at new ideas which will give the police and law enforcement agencies the tools they need for the job, and to help reduce the harm caused by organised crime.

"We are not in a position to comment on specific proposals at this time."   Link

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Numbers 2 - 5 of the list sound like me last night.

I do not understand something that covers both underworld figures AND graffiti.
I can't argue against having something like military 'office hours' -- Non-Judicial Punishment for those who are guilty of petty crimes and know it. The penalties are lighter -- if it doesn't leave a mark on your record, much the better. (military NJP does)
Does the accused have the right to opt-out and ask for a trial? (NJP does) If not, it's clearly wrong; unless you like trading your freedom for lack of grafitti, litter & noise.

SASBOS vs. ASBOS

This sounds like a lot of red tape on top of red tape. These things still have to be enforced. Probation does the same thing for the lesser offense. I agree that anything to keep the courts from being overloaded is good, but the logic here stumps me: These still have to processed, upheld, and enforced.

For the young kid, yeah, probably a good idea even if it just knocks him about psychologically. Maybe they could come up with one for delinquent parents:
PASBOS.

I don't know how I feel about the accused having the right to ask for a trial. That would put him on a permanent record, and that would defeat one of the better parts of this deal. And, in that case, it would double the efforts of law enforcement: Serving and sanctioning with the ABSOS and then, maybe, having to go through court proceedings. If it's going to go to court, forget the ASBOS and save time. The problem without the option of asking for a trial is a jerk for a judge. THAT could be a serious problem.

How about stocks in the town square? Just get it over with. A quick caneing?

Public punishment is a great deterence.

As I understand ASBOs, they are much more like a traffic court or diversion program.

Once someone has been declared an ASBO, the local people, relatives etc do most of the policing.

If the ASBO subject steps out of line then those people alert authorities.

I could not find any statistics to determine the success rate of the program.

But, the fact that it may be expanded seems to indicate that it is working.

So, this is the 21st century's SCARLET LETTER.

How would 'people', whoever, know someone has been ASBOsed? I don't think you can publish it in the paper, can you? Relatives and family can't be counted on, for sure. They bred and raised the ASSbo.


I'm not good with these social issue things. Having spent half my life around teenagers, I've seen both sides, the good, the bad, the rotten, the ruined, the heart-breaking......... I do not have a linear mind, so I suck at this.

Yes, they even post it on the community bulletin boards and put signs up around the person's house. It is almost a quarantine. Like an amber alert in reverse.

There have only been a bit more than 7000 ASBOs issued since the inception of the program.

An ASBO will get you in the local paper.

So it IS a pretty big deal. And communities in Britain are more close than ours. And, for sure, they have a greater sense of community there. So, ASBOs seem to be working.

In this country, people don't even know the next door neighbors, much less give a shit about them. So I don't know if it work here.

BUT ... when I was a kid they had truancy officers. Not cops, special 'almost' cops, whose sole duty was to bust kids skipping school.

In Boise, there were maybe 3 or 4. In a town of 25,000.

We need to utilize the police reserves and the auxilary and the wanna be's to police things like ASBOs. Truancy. Etc.

It would be a win/win situation.

The rookies get practice and the streets get police presence.

Hmmm. Bothers me something fierce. I'm all for boot camp and kicking butt. But I get very queasy about shame. This type of 'discipline' has a huge element of shame to it.

Guess what tops the list of worst emotions to feel? Shame.

It is such a killing emotion that a person will do just about anything to make it go away. That means, if they cannot make it go away, character traits begin to develop that otherwise might not had a more direct disciplinary action been taken.

Think sociopathic behavior. Think psychopathic behavior.

Is it worth producing more of that? This has shunning in it. That is torture.

Maybe you shoud read the statute. I linked to it.

It is like a very stern warning and EVERYBODY is watching.

Now if there's shame in that - too bad.

How else are we going to keep an eye on trouble makers?

Second offense - into a quasi-military where they learn whether they want to or not. Then for duty, send them to some third world country to help out. Like the Peace Corps. That'll change their deliquent little minds fast.

well the other day i went to school and i truanted my friends were pulling down a fence and throwing them at a old ladies house and im getting blamed as much as them and i didnt even do anything i was telling them to stop it but now the school said i am getting a asbo probably but i dont think its fair

well the other day i went to school and i truanted my friends were pulling down a fence and throwing them at a old ladies house and she had a heart attack and a emergency ambulance came for her and im getting blamed as much as them and i didnt even do anything i was telling them to stop it but now the school said i am getting a asbo probably but i dont think its fair

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